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| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 12:10:23
Having just upgraded from PCStitch 7.0 to PCStitch Pro, I have found that for some obscure reason, the save to clipboard facility in PCStitch Pro, reduces the image size, whereas in PCStitch 7.0 the original image size is retained.
Like many PCStitch users I like to export the image out of the program, to add my own logos etc within a DTP environment. Hopefully this fault will get rectified soon.  |
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| Dragonlair |
Posted - 02/27/2007 : 12:58:11
I second that note!
I also just downloaded and installed 8.03.03. It fixed an export to Standard problem I found over the weekend as well.
I was told MANY years ago that the only completely debugged program is the one no longer in use. No matter how hard you try, you will never remove every bug unless the program is so trivial that you can test every possible path. PCStitch is far to complex for that!
It may have it's little quirks and existing bugs but it is, for me, the best program. It has the environment I like and works well for me. That is not to say it's perfect, but still the best for me!
Good Work Mark!
Diane
There is no such thing as a stupid question |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/27/2007 : 12:20:49
The maintenance update released today (8.3.003) has now completely resolved the problem with the export module resizing images. Images are now being saved at their correct physical size and with the correct print density.
From the forums, I know that Mark often gets a lot of pressure and criticism thrown at him, but his prompt attention in dealing with this matter deserves credit.
 Keep up the good work Mark. |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/26/2007 : 11:24:06
There appears to be an element of confusion here Mark.
If I export an image out of PCStitch Pro, this then has to be resized and the resolution altered in a third party piece of software, such as Photoshop, before it can be used. This I can do myself - no problem! I know that with other cross stitch programs like Pattern Maker you don't have to do this, but I can trade that aspect, for the superior object manipulation and border creation tools in PCStitch Pro.
This post was initially about the fact that the save to clipboard in PCStitch Pro was resizing the image, whereas in PCStitch 7.0 the original image size is retained exactly. The original posting has digressed somewhat.
The retention of clipboard image size in PCStitch 7.0 was a very powerful tool, as it allowed you to just drop the exact image size into any dtp or similar package without alteration. Once put into the dtp system, custom typestyles, fonts, colours and diagrams can be added for a more professional chart. Again I can overcome this problem by saving the chart in PCStitch Pro, opening with PCStitch 7.0 and using the export to clipboard module in that program.
Just seems a shame that the Pro version has taken such a useful feature away.
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| Mark |
Posted - 02/26/2007 : 08:41:49
This is not entirely correct. The actual output size of an image is based on both the number of dots or pixels AND the resolution of your output device.
For example, the generaly accepted DPI of a computer monitor is 96. If you have an image that is 384 pixels wide and you display it on your monitor at 100%, then you hold a ruler up to your monitor and measure it, it will be close to 4" in width (not all monitors are exactly alike).
If you print that same image on a 300 DPI printer at 100%, the image will be a little less than 1 1/4". Sometimes the graphics software will make the image fit the dimensions you are expecting to see, but when it does, it is eaither adding or deleting pixels to make it work.
Mark Miller
M&R Technologies |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/26/2007 : 03:38:40
Hi Mark. Dots per inch setting should be the density of dots (pixels) in one inch. The higher the dpi, the better the image quality. This international standard applies to all graphics programs, image outputs, scanners and printers.
Doubling, or tripling the dpi (print density) should not dramatically increase the physical dimensions of the exported image, but should increase the quality of the exported image. I have throughly checked images exported from PCStitch Pro in Photoshop CS2, Paintshop Pro & Macromedia Fireworks and they ALL show the exported image as only being 100dpi. This is irrespective of whether it is a tiff, bitmap, or jpeg. The image size (in inches) has been dramatically increased in all exported formats, not the print quality which always remains at 100dpi?
I export images from a wide variety of other programs, including graphics and other cross stitch programs and none of them are resizing the image like this. An inch in measure, whether it has 100, 200, or 300 dots per inch, should still remain an inch in size?
Sure that this is just a minor glitch in the program that you will soon have sorted. I can see that an awful lot of development has been put into this product. The working with objects capability in particular, creates a fabulous design environment, that dramatically inceases flexibilty, but PLEASE sort out this problem in the export module soon, so I can use this product to its full potential.
For reference, I have version 8.03.002, running on Windows XP Pro, with SP2 installed.
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| Mark |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 19:44:33
We actually changed the export to work with DPI instead of zoom level on purpose because it seemed to make more sense. When you are exporting, it is for use in another program, and every graphics program I looked at uses DPI as a measure of how big your image is going to be depending on what output device you are working with.
Maybe if you tell me exactly how you are using the exported image, I could understand what the issue is.
Mark Miller
M&R Technologies |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 10:48:43
Updated to version 8.03.002 as suggested, but problem still there.
Opening up any exported file still shows up as only 100dpi, irrespective of what dpi was selected in export module. Physical linear size of image increased, not resolution.
Thanks for all your help anyway. Going to be a case of resizing through Photoshop, or exporting through PCStitch 7.0 at moment.  |
| Periphaeria |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 10:16:58
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Originally posted by gemstrike
If you load the exported file into Photoshop or similar and check image size, or try to paste into an open A4 page, you will see that it indeed does increase the size quite dramatically.
If you are looking at the exported files through windows viewer or similar, the image is automatically re-scaled to fit the window, so does not represent the actual image size.
I use neither PS or WV (I use Irfanview), and still for me it works as described.
Though, after reading Diane's post (have you recognized me yet, Diane?  ) the dirrefence may be in the update, or in OS or...
'Life is a great big canvas; throw all the paint on it you can.'
-- Danny Kaye |
| Dragonlair |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 09:54:57
Actually, the latest is 8.03.002. There were problems converting from one brand to another and other problems that were fixed on Friday. You might try that and see if some of the changes affect what you are trying to do.
Diane
There is no such thing as a stupid question |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 08:53:45
If you load the exported file into Photoshop or similar and check image size, or try to paste into an open A4 page, you will see that it indeed does increase the size quite dramatically.
If you are looking at the exported files through windows viewer or similar, the image is automatically re-scaled to fit the window, so does not represent the actual image size.
I have checked and double checked and the fault is still there. It is dots per inch (density) that should be increased, NOT the physical image size. An A4 image should remain A4 in size, irrespective of dpi setting. This problem occurs in save to clipboard, as well as in any of the export image formats.
Thanks for your help, but the fault still persists. I also have PCStitch 7.0 on my system, and that works perfectly, it is only PCStitch Pro I am having this problem with. It is the very latest version I am running (8.3.001), using the new .net 2.0 framework, that has only been released as a major update this week. It may well be that this newer framework is causing this particular problem. |
| Periphaeria |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 07:47:05
That sounds curious as in my case it doesn't double (or triple) the image size when doing that.
Or maybe it is in my eyes, who knows.
'Life is a great big canvas; throw all the paint on it you can.'
-- Danny Kaye |
| gemstrike |
Posted - 02/25/2007 : 07:39:22
I tried your suggestion, but sadly changing the dpi only inceases the clipboard image size, by quite a dramatic amount.
In PCStitch 7.0, the original image size is retained exactly when saving to clipboard, meaning the clipboard image can be pasted directly into a dtp or similar program without resizing. PCStitch Pro however, resizes the clipboard image, which seems to be proportional to the dpi setting. 200 dpi more than doubles the actual image size.
Interestingly enough this resizing even takes place when exporting as a graphic file, irrespective of format. A dpi of 300 triples the size of the original image. PCStitch Pro obviously has a major flaw in this respect, as I have never come across another application that does this. No dpi setting retains the original image size.
Hopefully this is a problem that will get looked at real soon, as having to resize an exported image back to its original (and correct) proportions, is both an unecessary and irritating aspect of this program. |
| Periphaeria |
Posted - 02/24/2007 : 14:25:32
If I understand your problem right it is easy to fix: when you export your image you have to change the DPI from 100 to what ever you wish (200 is quite good).
Personally I have just recently become PCStitch Pro user and it took a while to find that...  |
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